Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!ames!pasteur!agate!jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM From: jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Re: Women Wizards? Message-ID: <11874@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 10 Jul 88 02:06:09 GMT References: <11843@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, CA Lines: 22 Approved: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu In article <11843@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> brad%looking.uucp@RELAY.CS.NET (Brad Templeton) writes: >To me that ["wizard"] means the true creators of the industry. The ones who made >the big discoveries or wrote the landmark programs almost single-handedly. >Folks like Bill Gates, Dennis Ritchie. > >There are only a thousand or so of these people in the world, perhaps. >They are almost all men, with Admiral Hopper one of the very few exceptions. Well, there's Adele Goldberg, one of the authors of Smalltalk and a key member of the Xerox PARC group who invented most of the key ideas you see in Macintoshes and such. Certainly she should count. She does get recognition -- she's been president of ACM and was the keynote speaker at Usenix. -- - Joe Buck {uunet,ucbvax,pyramid,}!epimass.epi.com!jbuck jbuck@epimass.epi.com Old Arpa mailers: jbuck%epimass.epi.com@uunet.uu.net If you leave your fate in the hands of the gods, don't be surprised if they have a few grins at your expense. - Tom Robbins