Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!bloom-beacon!XEROX.COM!hayes.pa From: hayes.pa@XEROX.COM Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: Re: Generality in Artificial Intelligence Message-ID: <19880724060138.0.NICK@HOWARD-JOHNSONS.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: 24 Jul 88 06:01:00 GMT Sender: daemon@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 31 Approved: ailist@ai.ai.mit.edu Date: Wed, 20 Jul 88 11:32 EDT From: hayes.pa@Xerox.COM Subject: Re: Generality in Artificial Intelligence To: AIList@AI.AI.MIT.EDU cc: hayes.pa@Xerox.COM Steve Easterbrook gives us an old idea: that the way to get all the knowledge our systems need is to let them experience it for themselves. It doesnt work like that, however, for several reasons. First, most of our common sense isnt in episodic memory. That candles burn more often than tables isnt something from episodic memory, for example. Or is the suggestion is that we only store episodes and do the inductive generalisations whenever we need to by remarkably efficient internal access machinery? Apart from the engineering difficulties ( I can imagine 1PC being reinvented as a handy device to save memory ), this has the problem that lots of what we know CANT be induced from experiences. Ive never been to Africa or ancient Rome, for example, but I know a fair bit about them. But the more serious problem is that the very idea of storing experiences assumes that there is some way to encode the experiences, some episodic memory which can represent episodes. I dont mean which knows how to index them efficiently, just put them into memory in the first place. You know that, in your `..experience, candles are burnt much more often than tables.' How are all those experiences of candle-combustion represented in your head? Put your wee robot in front of a candle, and what happens in its head? Now think of all the other stuff your episodic memory has to be able to represent. How is this representing done? Maybe after a while following this thought you will begin to see McCarthys footsteps on the trail in front of you. Pat Hayes