Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!lll-tis!lll-winken!spl1!laidbak!lm From: lm@laidbak.UUCP (Larry McVoy) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Cray & Amdahl Virtual memory debate Message-ID: <1535@laidbak.UUCP> Date: 24 Jul 88 23:58:05 GMT References: <4232@cbmvax.UUCP> <76700035@p.cs.uiuc.edu> <5342@june.cs.washington.edu> <537@ns.UUCP> <1534@laidbak.UUCP> Reply-To: lm@laidbak.UUCP (Larry McVoy) Organization: LAI Chicago Lines: 13 Another thing occurs to me: Brian U of Cray said that their reason for no VM is speed. Someone else pointed out that there is a big difference between a development shop (i.e., lots of small processes) and an installation (i.e., one large Fortran process). My take on this is that VM may be a lose for the Fortran codes of the world but it is almost certainly a win for everyone else. In other words, Cray is locking theirselves into the big iron Fortran club (and out of other places?). Oh yeah, add demand paging (read: quick startup time) to my list in the previous article. Silly of me to forget that. -- Larry McVoy (laidbak!lm@sun.com | ...!sun!laidbak!lm | 800-LAI-UNIX x286)