Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!rochester!srs!matt From: matt@srs.UUCP (Matt Goheen) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Sun 4 MIPS rating Message-ID: <941@srs.UUCP> Date: 29 Jul 88 18:23:32 GMT Reply-To: srs!matt@cs.rochester.edu (Matt Goheen) Organization: S.R. Systems, Rochester NY Lines: 39 I have always been led to believe that Sun's rating of the Sun 4/200 series as 10 MIPS to be "Vax" MIPS (this goes for the 7 MIPS 4/110 as well). Well, it appears this this isn't the case. In the most recent issue of "Sun Technology", there is an article by Robert Garner (one of the members of the SPARC development team). Mr. Garner uses the term "SPARC MIPS" when referring to the 10 MIPS rating of the 4/200. To make a comparison to the 3/200 series, he states that the SPARC typically needs about 25% more instructions to complete a given task than a 68020 does. He rates the 3/200 series as 3.8 "MC68020 MIPS". To make a speed comparison of the 3/200 to the 4/200, the following formula is used: 10.0 MIPS Sun-4/200 perf = 0.8 * ----------------- = 2.0 4/200,3/200 3.8 MIPS Sun-3/200 Therefore, if we make the (poor) assumption that a 68020 MIPS is about equal to a VAX MIPS, we get a rating of about 8.0 Vax MIPS for the Sun 4/200 (we CAN say 8.0 MC68020 MIPS). This contradicts other articles I have seen published by Sun where the instruction count to complete a given task is included in the MIPS calculation (I believe one of these articles was in Sun's "A RISC Tutorial"). Using native MIPS ratings seems to be borderline dishonest as far as I'm concerned. Certainly the whole thing should have been presented a bit more clearly. Personally, I don't think anyone in marketing should be allowed to write/print/think/say the word "MIPS". However, I must commend Sun on the publication of "Sun Technology" (this Summer 1988 issue in particular). There are quite a few useful articles within it... -- - uucp: {rutgers,ames}!rochester!srs!matt Matt Goheen - - maybe-nets: matt@srs.uucp OR matt%srs.uucp@harvard.harvard.edu - - "We had some good machines, but they don't work no more." -