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From: cjh@hpausla.HP.COM (Clifford Heath)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Wanted: REAL vi mode for GNU emacs
Message-ID: <380006@hpausla.HP.COM>
Date: 27 Jul 88 03:28:49 GMT
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Organization: HP Australian Software Operation
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Ok, ok, stop telling me, I already knew about vi mode and vip mode.
vip seems the more complete, but lots of things simply work differently,
which loses the advantage of having an emulation.

As I said...

> are shorter.  Now, if someone were to write a real vi mode, that is
> one that, as far as it goes, actually works EXACTLY like vi does,
					      ^^^^^^^

Having looked further at vip mode, I'm sure it's fixable; here's my
list of fix requests (please post fixes here!) most severe first:

- Deletions to end of buffer don't work, e.g. Gdd, dG etc simply don't delete.
- Word movement uses the Emacs rules which are quite inferior to vi's (opinion)
- It is possible to get stuck in insert mode.  Can't remember how I did it,
  but the only way out I found was to kill the buffer.
- After an insert, the cursor should stop on the last char inserted. Same goes
  for $ which should go TO the last char on the line, not after the last.
- There is no indication of end of buffer, and innocent movement
  commands (j, +, etc) extend the buffer.
- There are some superfluous 'Beginning of buffer' and 'End
  of buffer' messages.

Clifford Heath, Hewlett Packard Australian Software Operation.
(UUCP: hplabs!hpfcla!hpausla!cjh, ACSnet: cjh@hpausla.oz)