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From: weemba@garnet.berkeley.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Wanted: REAL vi mode for GNU emacs
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Date: 30 Jul 88 08:22:33 GMT
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In-reply-to: cjh@hpausla.HP.COM (Clifford Heath)

In article <380006@hpausla.HP.COM>, cjh@hpausla (Clifford Heath) writes:
>Having looked further at vip mode, I'm sure it's fixable; here's my
>list of fix requests (please post fixes here!) most severe first:

I'm not going to fix these.  Just clues for someone who wants to.

>- Deletions to end of buffer don't work, e.g. Gdd, dG etc simply don't delete.

That *should* be easy to fix.  But I don't know if the code makes it so.

>- Word movement uses the Emacs rules which are quite inferior to vi's

A change in syntax-table would do that.

>- After an insert, the cursor should stop on the last char inserted. Same goes
>  for $ which should go TO the last char on the line, not after the last.

Sounds either trivial or grotty.

>- There is no indication of end of buffer,

You mean the "~"s?  Oh wow, I forgot about them.  Well, I suppose putting
in 50 say fake "~"s in your buffer would be possible, and then doing a
little extra dallying when you do a save.  Yeah.

>-					    and innocent movement
>  commands (j, +, etc) extend the buffer.

That is positively gross.  I rewrote next-line to not do that long long ago,
but it's an incomplete fix to the general case.  It's the only Stallmanism
that I absolutely loathe.  (How about a flag or something?)

>- There are some superfluous 'Beginning of buffer' and 'End
>  of buffer' messages.

Sounds like he's using (beginning-of-buffer) instead of (goto-char 1) etc.
If so, it's easy to fix.

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
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