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From: rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Aaarrrggghh! Trouble with mail ? ELM ?
Message-ID: <3668@pbhyf.PacBell.COM>
Date: 20 Jul 88 13:22:16 GMT
References: <792@cheops.EECS.UNSW.OZ>
Reply-To: rob@pbhyf.PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
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In article <792@cheops.EECS.UNSW.OZ> ashley@cheops.EECS.UNSW.OZ (Ashley M. Aitken) writes:
+I mainly use elm to mail, and reply to mail. My problem  is  that
+what I see in the editing of the send file is not what gets sent,
+usually. ...
+Everything seems fine, BUT on a large number of  cases  the  mail
+which  gets delivered is just the original file with the included
+text. On  some  occasions,  I  think,  some  of  my  changes  get
+included. ...
+  A  number  of things I can think of may be causing this,
+for example, I often ^Z out of the mailer (the editor) to go  and
+get  other  information  for  the  letter,  and  sometimes I exit
+straight after sending the mail (having read of the problems with
+elm killing the mailer).

Well, I've had this problem, too, but in my case it was cockpit error.

Typical senario: I am  replying to a letter and include it in mine.
I start adding my part to the quoted original, but inadvertently cut out
more of the quoted original than I wanted. I save what I have so far
to a temporary file, then do a ":e!" (I'm using vi) to re-read in the
quoted original, yank out if it what I cut out by accident, then switch
to the temporary file and re-establish that yanked portion. Then I
forget to change the name of the file that I'm editing and my letter is
only in the temporary file. I therefore unwittingly dispatch the original
letter in quoted format without my additions! I've done this with
e-mail and with net followup postings.
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