Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!purdue!decwrl!ucbvax!GRIN1.BITNET!MCGUIRE From: MCGUIRE@GRIN1.BITNET ("The Sysco Kid ", McGuire,Ed) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Press Release Message-ID: <8807270734.AA01663@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: 20 Jul 88 19:44:46 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 39 > Date: Tuesday, June 28, 1988 at 4:16 pm gmt > From: "jade.berkeley.edu.user" > Subj: Re: Press Release > > It has never been DEC's intention to exist "peacefully" in the multi vendor > environment. They want to be the hub of the multi vendor network. * Flame ON * Well, we started DEC. We bought Message Router, Digital's electronic mail transport system. Our staff is using ALL-IN-1, which uses Message Router to transport its network mail. But to make it work with DECnet mail, we had to put contorted forwarding VMSmail addresses in for everyone. But to participate in BITNET we use Jnet, by Joiner Associates, an excellent peer-to-peer DEC-IBM networking product. (Where is your product, Digital?) Jnet doesn't support Message Router. To make Jnet work with ALL-IN-1 we had to modify ALL-IN-1. We want to send mail through BITNET gateways to other networks. Jnet doesn't do it so ALL-IN-1 won't do it. Neither does VMSmail for that matter. Furthermore, we couldn't put 1200 students into ALL-IN-1 mail without buying enough VAXen to run the NYSE. So students use Dreams/6, by DCXX Software Services, an excellent personal mail system and mail transport system. It works well with DECnet and Jnet and supports RFC822, BSMTP and BITNET gateways. (Where is your product, Digital?) It doesn't support Message Router. In order to get mail from Message Router we had to modify VMSmail. Even so, a Dreams/6 user can't reply to a memo received from Message Router because the return address is munged. To participate in a TCP/IP LAN we got CMU-TEK TCP/IP, by Carnegie Mellon University. (Where is your product, Digital?) It doesn't support Message Router. Dreams/6 doesn't support CMU-TEK. What will? PMDF, from Ned Freed. (Where is your product, Digital?) It doesn't work with Message Router. At the hub of multivendor networking? Poop, I say, Digital. Poop. * Flame OFF * Ed