Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!BU-IT.BU.EDU!nat%drao.nrc.CDN%ean.ubc.ca From: nat%drao.nrc.CDN%ean.ubc.ca@BU-IT.BU.EDU (Natalie Prowse) Newsgroups: comp.society.futures Subject: does AI kill? Message-ID: <53*nat@drao.nrc.cdn> Date: 19 Jul 88 23:03:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 54 It seems to me that all this discussion about whether or not humans are kept 'in the loop' misses an important point: humans CREATED the 'loop' in the first place. The computer system didn't make the mistake, the human designers did (in the AEGIS disaster). But the more important question is: Without the AEGIS system, would a human have made the SAME mistake?? We can give AI systems more powerful senses than we could ever have (ie 'radar'), and we can program in deductive reasoning, but nothing is going to be perfect, because WE aren't perfect. No human has the capability for FLAWLESS decision making. (At least, none I'VE seen!) All this discussion reminds me of a little ditty I read somewhere: I really hate this damn machine, I wish that they would sell it It never does quite what I want, but only what I tell it. How can a person who is not capable of flawless decision making, design a system that IS?? I have to admit, In some cases, I'd almost take my chances with the computer system. Granted, it can't feel compassion, but by the same token, it can't feel malice or greed either. Look at the situation in the courts. In a recent program I watched on our local 'KNOWLEDGE NETWORK' (sort of public TV), a discussion centered on the fairness of the courts. The EXACT SAME case was presented to a variety of judges, (a burglary or something), and the sentences ranged from 3 months probation to 5 years in jail. I became very concerned after listening to the panel's discussion over the problems in the justice system, (and I'm sure it's as bad in the U.S.). Not that I'm into any criminal activities, but if I had to come up against a Judge, I think I'd rather take my chances with a good AI system that metes out justice. At least there is no chance that the computer might have just had a fight with its spouse that morning, and is in a terrible mood when I come before it!! We have to accept that anywhere we choose to let computers make the decisions for us, they are in fact, making decisions in the same way, (hopefully), than an EXPERT human would, and that is by no means PERFECT. At this point in time, computers are good at straight DECISION MAKING. We can't, as yet, program in emotions, but then what is the point to that? We have humans with emotions. I think we have to decide where 'emotionless' decision making should best be applied, and leave computers out of the other areas. This is perhaps where the ethics come into play. Granted, a starwars-type system might accidentally shoot down an unidentified airbus, but what are the chances that, in a totaly human controlled system, you don't get some fanatic with an apocalyptic view, who would push that button to see some prophesy fulfilled? -Natalie Prowse, D.R.A.O., Penticton, B.C. P.S. - can someone tell me who wrote that little poem?, I can't remember where I read it.