Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!agate!sri-unix!maslak@decwrl.dec.com From: sri-unix!maslak@decwrl.dec.com (Valerie Maslak) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Re: Girls' schools (was Re: Women Wizards?) Message-ID: <12783@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 28 Jul 88 23:01:28 GMT References: <12003@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <12620@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: SRI, Menlo Park, CA. Lines: 27 Approved: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu In respnse to Trish's note on Jamie's article... The issue of whether or not there is a CS major may be secondary to whether or not women are treated with respect for their intellectual abilities and achievements. But then I was never very comfortable with the idea of undergraduate school as vocational training anyway...I guess I know too many people who are doing things they never studied formally. In my daughter's high school, private, all-girls, the science and math classes are jammed. Most girls take the AP tests, most get 4 or 5 on them. My daughters KNOW that they are intellectually capable, they KNOW how to speak out in class, talk to teachers, question, learn. It doesn't occur to them to hold back because the boys might not like them to be too smart. My older daughter is now at Berkeley, and doing well, in genetics. She has no math anxiety, feels as comfortable in a literature class as a chemistry class. I honestly don't think she would have been this free, this strong, without a solid experience of being respected. And I'm not sure that most coed schools provide this. If a young woman is self-confident and sure of her abilities to begin with, it may not matter. But the single-sex model has a lot to recommend it as an arena for growth.