Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!agate!clambert%hector@Sun.COM From: clambert%hector@Sun.COM (Caroline Lambert [summer intern]) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Re: Countering discrimination your children will face Message-ID: <12875@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 1 Aug 88 20:10:41 GMT References: <12003@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <12502@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <12654@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <12792@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 45 Approved: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu In article <12792@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> gds@spam.istc.sri.com (Greg Skinner) writes: >It would be best if you let *her* decide what she wanted to do, then >encourage that. But, but, but....how many kids really know what they want to do at the point when they have to make serious career decisions? Without external guidance they will more likely pick the path of least resistance, which is also the path of least challenge and therefore probably of least reward. Obviously, if the girl really hates technical stuff of any sort, then there is no point in encouraging her in that direction, but if she is ambivalent, then she should be given encouragement to pursue something that she may think is too difficult or unsuitable for her because of the stigma attached to women in technical fields. Dragging personal experience into this - I found languages far easier than science and math when I was in high school, and was tempted to go into that in university. My parents kept a neutral standpoint, encouraging me neither one way or the other. It was an older brother who persuaded me otherwise. Two friends in the same position chose the other route because they thought they wouldn't do well in science at university, though they had done reasonably well at it in school. Needless to say they have both had a hard time finding satisfactory work after graduation. I ran into the same dilemma when choosing grad schools - by the time I had finished as an undergrad I was fed up with.....I'm not sure what, but I wanted a change. Maybe it was from struggling with being the only woman in most of my classes; feeling left out; putting up with professors who thought I only passed some courses because of help from a boyfriend. I had taken language classes as options, and applied to various grad schools in different subjects. I was offered a scholarship to go to Yale to study modern Chinese literature, and was very tempted to do it, but was again persuaded against it by a friend who pointed out that it was better to be a scientist with a linguistic background. I rarely met encouragement like that, but I needed it to stay in science, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It boggles the imagination to think where I'd be now had I gone to Yale, but I'm fairly sure now that I would have regretted it. I have a daughter and I'm going to give her all the support and encouragement she needs to be a scientist or engineer, if she has any inclination at all in that direction. Caroline Lambert caroline@polya.stanford.edu clambert@sun.com