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From: rminnich@lois.super.org (Ronald G Minnich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: amiga on a mac ii budget- the sequel
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Date: 1 Aug 88 21:15:21 GMT
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Reply-To: rminnich@lois.super.org (Ronald G Minnich)
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In article <3075@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM> wayneck@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM (Wayne Knapp) writes:
>Sorry but you guys are missing the whole issue.  Of coarse you can beef up
>a 2000 to almost a Mac II level. (can't get to the 8 bits per pixel easily yet 
>which is a key feature in my mind).  Anyway the problem is once you beef
>up the Amiga to a Mac II level, there is little else you can do. 
I don't think you got my drift; maybe i did not make it clear.
The point is that a lot of people compare a stock amiga 2000 to a 
mac ii and conclude the mac ii is better (see recent comp.arch postings).
My argument is that you must at least compare a same-price 2000 to
a mac ii. For my money, you do a lot better. I don't buy your
'little else you can do' argument anyway. I see two things the
mac ii does better: 256 color pallette and Hypercard. 
   I recently used a machine with 256-color pallette and X windows.
You move from window to window, the pallette changes. You 
wanna go insane? try it sometime. That machine badly needed
amiga-like screens. When the mac starts doing lotsa windows
and multitasking, it will need screens too. Just wait.
   Also: Mac ii windows are pigs speed-wise, hypercard is 
proprietary (and therefore useless), and mac ii 
multitasking is UGLY.   I think in the long 
run NeWS has hypercard beat, but that is another subject.
>The Mac II starts at the high level.  You still have open slots.  Lots of
>vendors are making all kinds of cards to plug into the Mac II.  At least
>10 for every 1 in the Amiga market.
OK. I showed 68020/68881+8mb+130mb disk + enet card. 
You get NFS that works on the amiga with any NFS host. for mac ii 
you need tops. yuck.
   What more did you want? 
>So if you want a Mac II level machine you are much likely to be better off 
>buying a Mac II instead of a maxed out Amiga 2000.  
Well, not true, i think. If you want a mac ii level machine, and 
not specifically a mac ii, get an amiga 2000, then spend the 
money you save on a laser printer or something. 
  If you want a mac ii, buy a mac ii, that is ok. If you 
want a nice machine, buy an amiga 2000.
ron