Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!convex!killer!ames!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!ssc-vax!benoni From: benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Apollo DOMAIN/IX csh question - job control Message-ID: <2133@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: 31 Jul 88 00:27:46 GMT References: <8807291748.AA01877@a.cc.umich.edu> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA Lines: 24 in article <8807291748.AA01877@a.cc.umich.edu>, rees@MAILGW.CC.UMICH.EDU (Jim Rees) says: - - - I don't know how Apollo implemented it, but on a real UNIX system - there should be no difference in job execution caused by whether - your shell is supporting job control or not. - - That's because "real" Unix isn't advanced enough to let you run a - program without spawning a whole new process to run it in. Instead, - it relies on total crocks like vfork() to speed up process creation. - - Let's not start a flame war, OK? Yeah AND real Unix supports process protection unlike Apollo (again pick any pre-SR10) Unix...i.e. if i am anybody i can kill a root process anywhere on my Apollo network...incidentally it would be interesting to know if Apollo's job execution and process protection change with SR10. Hopefully Apollo Unix will become "advanced" enough to protect processes in the same way they faithfully protect files. :-) SR10 will hopefully correct some of the deficiencies that Apollo I'm sure is tired of hearing about. ------------------------ My Opinions are my own.