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From: Ralph.Hyre@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU
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Subject: Re: Apple Demo Responses
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Date: 19 Jul 88 17:49:00 GMT
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In article <14045@apple.Apple.COM> keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) writes:
>
>Hello all,
>Good idea. We (Developer Tech Support) can't rewrite the manual, and there
>is more information in later manuals (like the Apple IIGS manuals), but that
>doesn't help you unless you have a spare $20-30 to blow on a manual for
>a computer you probably don't have.

Perhaps the best thing you can do is exert some rational influences.

I don't have a GS, but I had to buy the IIGS firmware reference manual in
order to find documentation on the low-level smartport/protocol converter
stuff (Even at the level of twiddling the phase control lines to 
send smartport commands as opposed to other stuff.)  I have the //e UniDisk
combo - and I'm trying to make use of the Liron card to talk to 5.25 sorts 
of drives.  Even though I read that it's not 'supposed' to work, I want to 
try it to see what really happens.  The $25 GS manual is to help insure that
I don't smoke a $100 drive - not a good investment from a purely insurance
oriented point of view.

A 'Liron' card schematic or simple pinout would help me make sure.
After all, who wants to waste another slot for a 5.25 controller card,
especially when future ProDOSes will make slot/drive distinction unnecessary?

Technotes (does developer support help write these?) are good for this
purpose, but APDA couldn't find the relevant Smartport ones.

In summary, I'm thrilled with the content, but the bundling of materials
could stand some improvement.

(I read in MacWeek that Apple is considering buying APDA - if it improves 
service, please do.)

Thanks again for being here.

					- Ralph
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