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From: fst@mcgp1.UUCP (Skip Tavakkolian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: IDRIS
Summary: IDRIS + WSL C + STX == $600
Message-ID: <1482@mcgp1.UUCP>
Date: 1 Aug 88 01:09:55 GMT
References: <4603@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> <1473@mcgp1.UUCP> <14895@apple.Apple.COM>
Organization: Computer Tools Int'l Inc.
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In article <14895@apple.Apple.COM>, billd@Apple.COM (William Dorsey) writes:
> In article <1473@mcgp1.UUCP> fst@mcgp1.UUCP (Skip Tavakkolian) writes:
>>IDRIS for ST/MEGA is $149.95 (US), STX-Windows is $49.95 (US).
>>There is a 25% discount for educational institutions if purchased with an
>>authorized purchase order from that institution. Please note that you
>>will need IDRIS to run STX-Windows.
> Gee, I paid $600 for Idris.  It didn't even come with a decent editor (ve???).
> I haven't received any notification through the mail about X-Windows, or any
> other additions to Idris (like a decent editor).  I was under the impression
> that the reason we had to pay so much for Idris was that we were going to get
> lots of support!  What support?  I have to wait until I see a posting on the
> net before I find out that X-Windows (not even X11) is now available, and I'll
> probably have to shell out another $50 for it?!  Tell me this isn't true!
> 
> Bill dorsey	billd@apple.com

You may not have to!!

The price you paid includes the Whitesmiths C compiler. We had a price change
which I posted about 2, or 3 months ago.  IDRIS ST with Whitesmiths C compiler
and libraries, Pascal compiler and libraries and STX-Windows is $600, which is
what you have minus the STX-Window, and Pascal compiler.

If you have software maintenance support (i.e. sent in the registeration card
and have signed for annual maintenance), or have IDRIS 3.11 or later, you will
get the STX-Windows and documentation, plus the kernel to support it, for the
cost of the media, and handling (5 micro floppies).

In regards to support, it means if you encounter a problem, you can call us,
and we will either solve the problem right-away, or enter it into the
bugs-to-be-fixed basket (overseas customers are responded to via fax). The
more sever a ``real'' bug, the faster it gets tended to.

I usually try to post most of the important news about our ST related
products to this news group, without taking too much of the bandwidth.
We will try to be more ``marketing'' oriented in the futurer; I however,
suggest that our customer call or write us every few months and ask us about
the new and upcoming things, and we will give you latest.

The public domain libraries include much better editors like microGNU-emacs
and Stevie editors. They also include things IDRIS is lacking, like Gawk.
PD disks include all sources and are $4 per diskette.

I would like to apologize to our customers for not having better means of
informing them of price changes and software updates, and our only excuse is
that we have limited resources and the condition of the ST/MEGA market does
not warrant the additional resources (to say it nicely :-) ).

Sincerely

-- 
Fariborz ``Skip'' Tavakkolian
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