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From: jimi@h-three.UUCP (jimi)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.microport
Subject: Re: Bell Tech Ad (was: Re: semi-review of Bell Tech Unix for the 386)
Summary: troff not part of UNIX SVR3
Message-ID: <263@h-three.UUCP>
Date: 25 Jul 88 18:40:25 GMT
References: <2321@sugar.uu.net> <148@dcs.UUCP>
Organization: h-three Systems, Research Triangle Park,  NC
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In article <148@dcs.UUCP>, wnp@dcs.UUCP (Wolf N. Paul) writes:
> In article <2321@sugar.uu.net> karl@sugar.uu.net (Karl Lehenbauer) writes:
> >... Nroff/troff are not included, because, according
> >to BT, they haven't gone through the validation suite and aren't up to the
> >quality of everything else, but they'll sell it to you....
> 
> Now, THAT is no longer ambiguous, if this is true, then their ad is purposely
> misleading the consumer.
> 
> The ad states "The price includes ... and all other UNIX utilities, files
> and programs, ...", but that seems to be OUTRIGHT UNTRUE.
> What sort of reasoning is this, "It hasn't passed the tests so we'll
> charge you extra for it"?
> I get to be less and less impressed with the honesty of whoever makes
> marketing decisions at Bell Technologies.

This comment applies to n/troff only.

These programs and their associated utilities (tbl, pic, etc.) are
not part of UNIX SVR3; they have been unbundled from UNIX and are
sold as Documenters' Workbench.  The last AT&T UNIX version that
provided n/troff as part of the base product was SVR1. That was
the C/A/T version of troff (no device independence).

I'm not sure exactly what Bell Tech is trying to say about n/troff
and I don't know what you get when you ask for it. Since n/troff
are no longer part of (AT&T) UNIX the fact that they aren't provided
shouldn't be a reason to say Bell Tech's statement is "OUTRIGHT UNTRUE."

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