Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ames!ll-xn!husc6!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!buengc!bph From: bph@buengc.BU.EDU (Blair P. Houghton) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: vi vs. emacs Message-ID: <661@buengc.BU.EDU> Date: 31 Jul 88 18:08:12 GMT References: <16697@brl-adm.ARPA> <517@uva.UUCP> Reply-To: bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) Followup-To: comp.unix.questions Organization: Boston Univ. Col. of Eng. Lines: 31 In article <517@uva.UUCP> freek@uva.UUCP (Freek Wiedijk) writes: >In article <16697@brl-adm.ARPA> garvin@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Jay Garvin) writes: >> I have >> only a key labeled 'Delete' and it puts out the ^? character >> (Control-question mark). > >Woudn't "control-question mark" be an excellent choice for the help key? :-) And we arrive in the course of this topic to the reason that I now avoid Emacs like I avoid rats with bleeding noses. I once went into the info mode of Emacs, saw the menu of commands you could give it, and thought "what the hell, I'll just learn a few of these and flip through the pages here and I'll be able to pick up Emacs a little easier afterward." Four years later, battered, bruised, starved, I emerged from the jungle, having still not found the elephants' graveyard. I can't imagine anything more inane than having to learn "Emacs-like" commands to get the help I need to use and only to use Emacs. I have a copy of the Ultrix-32 quick reference guide at my side always, and it contains the commands for vi, and nobody has come up with an "undocumented" command that this reference doesn't document, and I don't need a machete, roadmap, or eight-fingered keystrokes to find something in it. Now if I could just get rid of that bug that sometimes toggles me into insert mode when I'm doing repeated backspacing with the leftarrow... --Blair 'But what does map S Gi/\esc0"ad$dd@a mean?'