Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!orstcs!beasley!kramerj From: kramerj@beasley.CS.ORST.EDU (Jack Kramer - OSU Gene Res) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Re: AT&T Joining OSF Message-ID: <5796@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> Date: 28 Jul 88 15:59:49 GMT References: <10474@ulysses.homer.nj.att.com> <5960008@hpcupt1.HP.COM> Sender: netnews@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU Reply-To: kramerj@beasley.UUCP (Jack Kramer - OSU Gene Res) Organization: Oregon State University -- UCS Lines: 18 In article <5960008@hpcupt1.HP.COM> kluft@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ian Kluft) writes: >rogers@ofc.Columbia.NCR.COM (H. L. Rogers) writes: >> Does AT&T membership give respectability to the OSF crowd? > >Actually, it was AT&T and Sun who were lacking in respectability after >trying to steal the whole market for themselves. > >(Disclaimer: Official HP statements only come from HQ in Palo Alto.) >------------------------------------------------------------------ AT&T and Sun trying to steal UNIX? How much did OSF members such as IBM, DEC and Apollo spend over the last 15 years to get UNIX where it is today? But I guess UNIX does need to be brought up to date. When will we be able to get the new JCL manuals that will finally make UNIX as easy to use as IBM's other OS's? Have you tried to get a copy of MVS source from DEC - their openness will certainly add to the continued development of the "new" UNIX. The list of potential benefits that the proprietary money mongers will introduce is unlimited.