Xref: utzoo news.admin:3032 misc.legal:5273 soc.women:11982 Path: utzoo!utgpu!utfyzx!oscvax!lsuc!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!rutgers!mcnc!unccvax!dya From: dya@unccvax.UUCP (York David Anthony) Newsgroups: news.admin,misc.legal,soc.women Subject: Re: Proposed lawsuit Message-ID: <1039@unccvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Jul-88 12:34:23 EDT References: <12165@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: Univ. of NC at Charlotte, Charlotte, NC Lines: 93 Summary: Stop blathering in misc.legal. Please !!!!! In article <12165@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, era1987@violet.berkeley.edu (Mark Ethan Smith) writes: > If you've been reading the net for any length of time, you've seen > the same group of people violate my rights repeatedly. Several of > them have made it plain that they will not stop unless I sue. It ] ENOUGH ALREADY !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! !!! I have been following this (more or less) for several years or at least until someone up the chain from here decided that we didn't get stuff posted to alt.groups when posted alone. Now, I see this mess has contaminated misc.legal. I sincerely hope that Mark Ethan Smith brings this matter to litigation. Furthermore, when she does (go ahead, sue me, Mark, I'll provide a precisely definable place where you can find me and MY attorney) I hope that the nation's news media have a field day. This matter doesn't belong on USENET, it belongs on Ted Koppel's NIGHTLINE, or Larry King on Talknet, or, for that matter, Talk Back with Bob Larson. I wonder just how much fun some of the Christian radio network shows would have with this issue. Genderized personal pronouns do not constitute discrimination. Goddamnit, people, there is something fundamentally wrong with a society when this kind of legal tripe (which might be the stuff a 1L student at Carolina argues in "Moot Court" at the Student Union) can even disgrace the docket. An aside. . . My life insurance salesman actually asked me (in all sincerity) whether or not I was pregnant. Being the bearer of male genitalia, I can assure the Net (and the insurance company) that this question does not apply. Nevertheless, this particular insurance company was sued for discrimination and lost two judgements to MALE individuals who claimed "discrimination" on the insurance application. (Hence, the question in all sincerity. No, I don't doubt it one bit, and would love to see the legal citations.) Mark, you have to prove that your matter is one which may be properly brought to trial. It isn't. Furthermore, you have to prove that you were not contributorily negligent (or otherwise). Your original complaint may have had some merit, but this business about suing the Net, the Federal Government, and the Camp Fire Girls :-) (that's a joke, people) over this has no merit. Watch ** my lips ** - simply because someone does something which you do not like, EVEN IF IT IS IN THE FLIPPING FEDERAL RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE, does not mean you have grounds for litigation. Come and sue me, Mark. I'll make sure that you have many guests at the trial. How about major radio and TV networks, the Charlotte Observer, and all the Christian media you can shake a stick at. York David Anthony 7853 N. Tryon Street Charlotte, NC 28213 You may serve your lawsuit there, or at my counsellors: Scott Pollard, Esq. Dozier, Brackett, Miller, Pollard and Murphy 701 E. Trade Street Charlotte, NC 28217 Phillip E. Bolton, Esq. Bolton & Owen, P.C. RR 1 Box 151 Advance, North Carolina 27006 I'll be damned if something as stupid as this personal pronoun business is going to restrain ordinary social discourse to the point where people have to fear litigation simply because of the personal pronouns which they occasion to use. Oh, by the way, I own a radio station and a television station, which are EEO's, would you care to take up my "discriminatory attitudes" with the FCC at license renewal time? The file numbers are Wilmington, NC BP-860728AC NEW AM, 1120 kHz, 1.0 kw-DA-D Concord, NC BPTTL-JA0702S5 NEW TV, Channel 6+, 0.038 kw I'd love to see the look on the FCC ALJ's face when they see this. Hope we get ALJ Stirmer!!!!! Bet you can't even establish standing to file a petition to deny. I hope you will hire an attorney. York David Anthony DataSpan, Inc.