Xref: utzoo news.admin:3039 misc.legal:5281 soc.women:11989 Path: utzoo!utgpu!utfyzx!oscvax!lsuc!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!mcdchg!heiby From: heiby@mcdchg.UUCP (Ron Heiby) Newsgroups: news.admin,misc.legal,soc.women Subject: Re: Proposed lawsuit Message-ID: <10783@mcdchg.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Jul-88 18:53:06 EDT References: <12165@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <4461@sphinx.uchicago.edu> <12179@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: heiby@mcdchg.UUCP (Ron Heiby) Organization: Motorola Microcomputer, Schaumburg, IL Lines: 24 era1987@violet.berkeley.edu writes: > I see. Well, there's a black man who is an FBI agent who has > endured hell being harassed by his fellow agents because of > his color. He hasn't quit his job, as you seem to feel he should. [other examples of heavy-duty harassment and discrimination] I think the point Mark has missed is that *most* people, at this time, don't consider death threats, beatings, and murder to be quite the same thing as referring to someone as "she" rather than "he". I know it's hard to believe, but I myself would rather be referred to as "she" than have my family threatened with dismemberment. Sounds crazy? I know. Using the "wrong" or "undesired" personal pronoun is not a very nice thing to do. It's just that most people with a social conscience would rather work to help oppressed people keep from being beaten bloody than be called nasty names, like "she" and "her". Maybe when people aren't being beaten because they are women and aren't being killed because their skin isn't the "right" color, then people will have time to be upset about pronouns. -- Ron Heiby, heiby@mcdchg.UUCP Moderator: comp.newprod & comp.unix "Failure is one of the basic Freedoms!" The Doctor (in Robots of Death)