Xref: utzoo misc.legal:5501 news.admin:3163 soc.women:12234 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!iscuva!davids From: davids@iscuva.ISCS.COM (David Schmidt) Newsgroups: misc.legal,news.admin,soc.women Subject: Re: A real sweetheart Message-ID: <1809@iscuva.ISCS.COM> Date: 28 Jul 88 21:58:50 GMT References: <12624@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Organization: ISC Systems Corporation, Spokane, WA Lines: 24 In article <12624@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> era1987@violet.berkeley.edu (Mark Ethan Smith) writes: >[...] >The "truth" that you think (and all your friends agree) that >somebody is, in truth, a real sweetheart, is perhaps a defense >in a defamation suit, but not in a suit for discrimination andor >harassment if you persist in calling them sweetheart andor referring >to them as sweetheart, and they object. >[...] The difference is that a person being a "sweatheart" is a *VALUE* judgement. The fact that you are a female is not a value judgement (at least not with me). It is a fact. The "fact" that a person is or is not a "sweatheart" can be argued based on an individual's values. It is a fact that you are a female, and when referring to you the word "her" is a fact. I agree that is IS impolite and rude not to abide by your wishes (no matter what a person thinks of them), but it is not "discriminating". -- David Schmidt UUCP: davids@iscuva.ISCS.COM ISC Systems Corporation (uunet!iscuva!davids) East 22425 Appleway Phone: +1 509 927-5479 Liberty Lake, WA 99019