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From: allen@sulaco.UUCP (Allen Gwinn)
Newsgroups: misc.legal,news.admin,soc.women
Subject: The Great Mark Ethan Smith Defamation Conspiracy
Summary: What you  have, Mark, is a fundamental lack of comprehension...
Message-ID: <179@sulaco.UUCP>
Date: 29 Jul 88 12:36:49 GMT
References: <12624@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <1809@iscuva.ISCS.COM> <12729@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>
Organization: SULACO, Dallas, TX
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In article <12729@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>, era1987@violet.berkeley.edu writes:
> In article <1809@iscuva.ISCS.COM> davids@iscuva.ISCS.COM (David Schmidt) writes:
> >
> >I agree that is IS impolite and rude not to abide by your wishes (no
> >matter what a person thinks of them), but it is not "discriminating".
> 
> If the ONLY reason for being impolite and rude to someone in a certain
> way involving their religion, race, color, age, handicap, or sex,
> *IS* their religion, race, color, age, handicap, or sex, then it *IS**
> discriminatory.

No... the phrase should read "If the ONLY reason for being impolite and rude
to someone in a certain way *is because of* their religion, race...sex,
then it MAY be discriminatory depending upon the circumstances involved".
Otherwise, the only thing that the offender may be guilty of is rudeness
or bad taste.  How come the members of the Ku Klux Klan don't get sued for
calling black people 'niggers'???

The people that are refusing to call you 'he' and 'him' are probably doing
so because of YOU, Mark, not because they discriminate against women.  The
bulk of them are probably tired of listening to all your crap.  Why don't
you grow up, change your attitute, try being civil to everyone on the net
(even the men), and see if that doesn't bring about a change in the whole
situation?!?!?

> If you do it from a site of which you are am employee, and I happen
> to be a customer, such as, for example, AT&T, you could be reprimanded
> or penalized if I file a complaint.  

Oh, I suppose you could call in a complaint on anyone, at any company,
for any reason, customer or not... except for my company :-)  You would
be complaining to me :-)

> One person has done that several
> times, and I had hoped not to have to file a complaint, but they do
> not wish to stop putting their company in a position of liability,
> so I may have to file a complaint in order to get that person's
> harassment to stop.   Suing me for threatening to sue or file a
> complaint  unless the harassment against me stops, by alleging
> that my threat to sue or file a commplaint after repeated harassment,
> is itself a form of harassment, is akin to kicking somebody in the
> face in front of witnesses, and then filing a harassment complaint if
> they call the cops, because you feel that calling the cops is an
> infringement on your "right" to kick them in the face.  

In the first place, nobody is putting anybody's company in any position
of liability by picking on you.  I know that this fact is hard for you
to live with.  If I worked for AT&T (or whoever you seem to be threatening
to contact), I would probably like it if you called my supervisor to
complain.  After he talked with you, I am sure that I would never have
anything to worry about from your future complaining :-)

Another thing... nobody's going to sue you, unless you file a lawsuit
(of a frivolous and harassing nature) against them.  They have no more
of a cause of action against you than you have against them.  Nobody has
a "right" to "kick someone in the face", including you, Mark.

Grow up, Mark
-- 
Allen Gwinn     ...sulaco!allen   allen@sulaco.UUCP
Disclaimer: I speak for myself only (thanks Oleg)