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From: mjh@ihlpa.ATT.COM (Huber)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Bluebirds
Summary: It continually amazes me to hear about the human killing instinct. Killing
	 is the first thought in dealing with every problem.
Message-ID: <8736@ihlpa.ATT.COM>
Date: 1 Aug 88 16:50:38 GMT
References: <5446@ihlpf.ATT.COM>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois
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In article <5446@ihlpf.ATT.COM>, jimf@ihlpf.ATT.COM (JF) writes:
>     >gave up after I ripped out their nests at least 30 times.
>     
> Actually, rather than just rip out their nests, I'd rather exterminate 
> the sparrows altogether if I could figure out an efficient way to do it.
> 
> I don't think obviously uninformed bleeding hearts should be
> making value judgements out of total ignorance. You flamers should
> built sparrow and starling boxes.


Now you dismiss anyone who objects to your violent attitude with 
the hostile "bleeding heart" label. Anytime people like you get close to emotion
you use this disgusting term. I'll bet you are a Goldwater, or Regan republican.
Just because some stupid/ignorant people brought the Sparrow to N. America, 100's of
years ago, doesn't justify some other stupid/ignorant person killing them. 

And about
nature needing a helping hand: nature is too complex for humanity to ever understand
all (or even most of) its mysteries. The natural world is not justified or explained or
understood with human paltry logic!

I think its great that you are trying to help the Bluebird and Woodduck after all the
damage that has been done to them by people. However, I'm quite confused over your 
attitude about Sparrows. 

PS. I heard this weekend from a farmer in this N. Illinois area that Pheasants have
    been decimated from Pesticide use on crops. The current fad seems to be spraying
    from the air. I can't understand how this society tolerates such horror!
    If you are ever in the mood for a scary "movie", see the United Farm Worker
    tape "Grapes of Wrath". Straight out of Vietnam.