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From: robiner@ganelon.usc.edu (Steve)
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Subject: Re: Strange results in Nature article
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Date: 25 Jul 88 21:36:09 GMT
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>They found that there was *no* level of dilution at which the fraction
>of cell degranulation went to zero.  EVEN WHEN THEY DILUTED THE SOLUTION
>DOWN TO 1 x 10**120.  Since Avagadro's number is only about 6 * 10**23, this
>means that there is not even a single antibody present in these solutions.

I'm not a biologist, but I know something about organic material.  Isn't it
possible that these antibodies are reproducing themselves in solution? Perhaps
they're just splitting into smaller pieces.  Maybe the degranulation can 
occur with only a small part of the orginal present.

Why don't they try a better test for the presence of these antibodies, if that's
what they think is actually there.  Or, if it's *changed* the water, use a
filter which is so small that ONLY water moelcules can go through.

Just some thoughts on not believing the unbelievable.
=Steve=