Xref: utzoo sci.bio:1379 sci.misc:2188 sci.research:439 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!nrl-cmf!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!athena.mit.edu!ayermish From: ayermish@athena.mit.edu (Aimee Yermish) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.misc,sci.research Subject: Re: Strange results in Nature article Message-ID: <6472@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Date: 29 Jul 88 07:26:25 GMT References: <10465@lll-winken.llnl.gov> <11063@oberon.USC.EDU> Sender: daemon@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Reply-To: ayermish@athena.mit.edu (Aimee Yermish) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 21 It's extremely unlikely that the antibodies would reproduce themselves, considering that they don't have the machinery around to do it with. I don't know enough about the structure of the molecules involved to answer the splitting issue, but I will suggest that if you're diluting to 10**120, whether you started with 100 molecules or 500 molecules is really pretty immaterial. I vote for a combination of some loosening up by the organic gunk and some mechanical shear provided by the vortexing (they did say vigorous, right?), will have to really pick at their protocols in my copious free time. It would be really good to find something that answers the IgG control... If they filtered it such that only water molecules could get through, and the results turned out believable again, don't you think *someone* would suggest that they filtered out the somehow changed water molecules that were responsible for the effect in the first place. (grin) --Aimee ------------------------------------------------------------------ Aimee Yermish ayermish@athena.mit.edu MIT couldn't care less about anything I say. (as long as I finish that last paper...)