Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!rutgers!mcnc!unccvax!dya From: dya@unccvax.UUCP (York David Anthony) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: 9600 baud modems Message-ID: <1047@unccvax.UUCP> Date: 25 Jul 88 16:49:47 GMT References: <1127@nunki.usc.edu> <478@ns.UUCP> <1044@unccvax.UUCP> <506@ns.UUCP> <1988Jul23.203605.20716@utzoo.uucp> Organization: Univ. of NC at Charlotte, Charlotte, NC Lines: 43 In article <1988Jul23.203605.20716@utzoo.uucp>, henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: > > This is how **some** 9600 baud modems work. Real 9600 baud > > modems work by quadrature amplitude modulation... > > Real 14000 baud modems, mind you, work by the multi-carrier approach > originally described. ("Real" meaning "Telebit Trailblazer", of course.) > Why buy 9600-baud QAM when you can have 14000-baud PEP? :-) Not true at all. CCITT specification V.33, which applies to trellis-encoded 14,400 bit/sec and 12,000 bit/sec (corresponding to 6-bit per symbol and 5-bit per symbol encoding, respectively) specifies only QAM of the carrier. A V.33 modem, when operating over a suitable dial-through circuit, **guarantees** a throughput of 14,400 bits per second, period. Unless and until Telebit Trailblazer, or any other of these "tier-two" high speed modems can demonstrate a throughput of 14,400 bits/sec using random synchronous data, these modems will be rightfully considered to be "second class" compared to the UDS 14.4 Trellis and the Rockwell R144HD. Having transmitted medical images (essentially random data) through every kind of modem known to God, I can with certainty state that the Telebit Trailblazer does not even achive achieve 9600 bits/sec on random data. The Trailblazer does deal with certain line impairments better than the earlier QAM modems. However, the two technologies are **not the same**, despite what you can do with Fourier transforms and their ilk. Of course, most people do not send random data (or nearly random data), the adaptive compression and equalization of the Trailblazer (plus many manufactuers' nice big "fool UUCP" buffers) can make burst rates of 14,400 bits/sec possible. As far as I am concerned, the only measure of a modem's performance is the worst case continuous speed at a specified bit error rate. Why not run crypt on a file like /vmunix and send that through the Trailblazer and a UDS. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? Yours for truth in modem advertising; York David Anthony