Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!dogie!uwmcsd1!mailrus!iuvax!pur-ee!hankd From: hankd@pur-ee.UUCP (Hank Dietz) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Split I and D caches and IBM lawyers Summary: What a patent means Message-ID: <8729@pur-ee.UUCP> Date: 3 Aug 88 21:39:19 GMT References: <62370@sun.uucp> <15086@apple.Apple.COM> <62555@sun.uucp> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Lines: 39 In article <62555@sun.uucp>, dre%ember@Sun.COM (David Emberson) writes: > In article <15086@apple.Apple.COM>, baum@Apple.COM (Allen J. Baum) writes: > > In summary: IBM patents are not without foundation. They are diligent about > > researching prior art. The patents are strong, well written patents, and do > > not make wild claims about inventing fundamental concepts (unless, of course, > > they actually did, which is not an uncommon case). ... > The idea of managing the contents of a cache memory under software control > sounds like something that is a fundamental, obvious idea to me. Well, complete software control IS new, but it isn't neatly patentable and IBM isn't doing that -- Chi-Hung Chi and I are and we've been publishing on it for a year and a half. Further, the crude control IBM has patented seems to me seems SIMILAR to the control used in many machines and proposals. However, I read IBM's patent (as summarized by Allen Baum) as claiming specific cache control instructions: not claiming the general, abstract, concept of software cache control. ... > The patent system was intended to protect inventors, not monopolies. No. The patent system was designed to protect investment in technological development, hence encouraging development of innovative new devices. An invention is not supposed to be patented UNLESS you will market it -- this is the logic behind patent-maintenance fees. The unfortunate thing about the IBM patents is not the patents themselves, but the PUBLIC USE OF THEM AS A SCARE TACTIC. As far as I can tell, the patents are really quite weak -- they protect very little and, although very carefully written, are easily challenged or circumvented. But who would dare challenge IBM? Worse still, who is large enough to survive the legal costs of being challenged (rightly or not) by IBM? It's just my opinion, but I think IBM stepped way over the line in saying that these patents were to be used to "reclaim" their inventions which other companies have stolen. However, it's a moral line -- not a legal line -- that they've crossed. -hankd