Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!gatech!sbmsg1!scbhq!uahcs1!madhat!alvitar From: alvitar@madhat.UUCP (Phil Harbison) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Split I and D caches and IBM lawyers Keywords: IBM, patents, SUN Message-ID: <278@madhat.UUCP> Date: 6 Aug 88 22:58:59 GMT References: <62370@sun.uucp> Organization: DataVision, Huntsville AL Lines: 35 In article <62370@sun.uucp>, dre%ember@Sun.COM (David Emberson) writes: > ^^^ > Now that IBM has supposedly "invented" Harvard architecture with cache > memories ... > > If ever there was a case which proved the need for more vigilance on the > part of the patent office and the legal profession, this is it.... > > Common subexpression elimination? Gimme a break! Single cycle mask and > rotate instructions? Come on! Where will this end? > > We need a patent system that 1) prevents trivial claims, 2) is inexpensive, > and 3) provides protection for small companies and entrepreneurs. > Is it just me or do others see the irony in this statement? Here we have a guy complaining about IBM's ability to patent such "obvious" things as separate I&D caches, common subexpression elemination, etc. However, a quick glance at the authors signature line tells me he works for SUN Microsystems, the same company which was able to patent the "revolutionary" concept of using the least significant bits of an ad- dress as the row addresses for a bank of DRAMs. Is this not a case of the pot calling the kettle black? Of course I am referring to the patent SUN has on using the bits which bypass the MMU as row addresses, thereby allowing the row access to overlap with the MMU translation time. Never mind the fact that it is convention to use the LSBs as the row address anyway, and that the over- lap potential should be obvious to anyone skilled in digital circuit design. In my opinion, SUN is just a little IBM that just happens to have better tastes in processors and operating systems. :-) By the way, this is not meant as a personal attack on Mr. Emberson. My complaints are with the SUN coorporation, not its individual employees, who for the most part are very nice people. ---- Live: Phil Harbison USPS: 3409 Grassfort Drive, Huntsville, AL 35805-5421 UUCP: madhat!alvitar PSTN: 205-881-4317 or 205-830-4310x210