Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!umn-d-ub!umn-cs!ns!ddb From: ddb@ns.UUCP (David Dyer-Bennet) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: Are these binaries "safe"? Message-ID: <727@ns.UUCP> Date: 8 Aug 88 19:37:19 GMT References: <4774@csli.STANFORD.EDU> <30587@clyde.ATT.COM> <8475@ihlpb.ATT.COM> Organization: Network Systems Corp. Mpls MN Lines: 38 In article <8475@ihlpb.ATT.COM>, nevin1@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Liber) writes: [while mildly flaming another poster who will remain nameless] > > You either > > a) Really don't believe that a virus can exist. > > If this is true, then you don't have a high enough level of expertise with > computers to be fooling around with a virus. If you had a higher level of > expertise, you would realize that viruses are not only possible but they > are (unfortunately) almost trivial to write. > > or > > b) Are trying to trick the net into sending you a virus. > > In which case under no circumstances should you be allowed to study a > virus. I'm sorry, but I'm getting REALLY sick of this attitude, which I've been seeing here and on Fidonet for the last few years. I believe in viruses in theory, and I believe that they exist in pracice, but I've never actually seen any evidence for their existence. What you are saying is that anybody who expresses interest in seeing a virus is a fool or a criminal; this is blatant nonsese. Some of us want to see viruses out of scientific curiosity, and some of us have been trying to get somebody to send one for YEARS, simply to get some sort of objective estimate of their real frequency. Based on several years of this, the only statement about viruses I could support with any kind of evidence is "Viruses don't exist". Since I don't believe that statement, it bothers me that it's the only one I can offer support for. -- -- David Dyer-Bennet ...!{rutgers!dayton | amdahl!ems | uunet!rosevax}!umn-cs!ns!ddb ddb@Lynx.MN.Org, ...{amdahl,hpda}!bungia!viper!ddb Fidonet 1:282/341.0, (612) 721-8967 hst/2400/1200/300