Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!psuvax1!rutgers!ucsd!ames!killer!elg From: elg@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Re: Amiga or PC-AT ? Message-ID: <5114@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> Date: 7 Aug 88 04:53:53 GMT References: <1820006@hpuamsa.UUCP> <554@gort.cme-durer.ARPA> Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 57 In message <554@gort.cme-durer.ARPA>, brickman@cme-durer.ARPA (Jonathan E. Brickman) says: >I suspect the answer hinges on just exactly how much $$$ you've got >available. I would ordinarily vote heavily against the Amiga, because >of three things: >(1) Awkward and rigid color mapping arrangement. >(2) Very limited software availability. >(3) Unreliable operating system. part 1) may partially apply (HAM mode certainly is awkward enough). But software availability and the reliability of the operating system have been non-issues for at least the last year (as you'd expect, from a machine released over 3 years ago). This is not 1985, when there were only two Amiga programs on the market and the Amiga crashed if you touched the mouse :-}. The main vote against the Amiga is simply that it will not do what he wants to do (4096 colors on-screen at one time, in 640x400 resolution). >similar capability, you might want to consider it. Please bear in mind, >though, that if you were to go with an AT with a VGA, you would be buying >a _very_ well-supported machine with a very polished and multiply-compatible >graphics card running two popular operating systems (PC-DOS and OS/2, with >probable future X-Windows on larger machines). Whereas if you were >to buy and Amiga, you are buying outdated hardware (68000 at low speed -- >almost nothing uses those things anymore), a cheaply built and unexpandable >graphics capability (uses interlaced graphics -- hard on the eyes at >max resolution), an operating system which crashes roughly three times as >frequently as PC-DOS 2.0 (3.3 is much better yet) with corresponding loss >of data, work, temper, and possibly disk data, and very limited >expandability (limited simply because very few companies build the stuff). Well, at work I am using an Amiga with 5 megabytes of memory, a 68020 with 68881, and a fairly reliable operating system (release 1.2 of the OS). I could run Unix if I wanted to (but I don't have the hard drive capacity -- the machine has only a 30 meg Miniscribe right now). It has a FlickerFixer expansion in it with a Multisync monitor to eliminate interlace. We are currently doing image processing on 768K image files (8-bit RGB). I have been running it, using a BETA TEST version of 1.3 system software, for over 4 months of heavy development use, and have not lost a single bit of data off of either hard drive or floppy. I crash it fairly regularly, mostly by passing bad pointers within my programs and getting an address exception, or by running buggy public domain software. But under those conditions, an IBM compatible would crash just as badly. Your arguments would have been valid 2 years ago, in 1986, for the Amiga. But they would have also been valid in 1983 for the IBM PC. Time moves on. If you do not need higher resolutions than currently available, the Amiga makes a fine little graphics box, expandable to a degree you'll never find with any MS-DOS machine (quick -- how many users of MS-DOS have machines with 5 megabytes of memory, FULLY ACCESSIBLE BY ALL PROGRAMS?). -- Eric Lee Green ..!{ames,decwrl,mit-eddie,osu-cis}!killer!elg Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 Lafayette, LA 70509 MISFORTUNE, n. The kind of fortune that never misses.