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From: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.mail.headers
Subject: Re: Real data to support my claim that '-d sun' is the way to go.
Message-ID: <10141@g.ms.uky.edu>
Date: 8 Aug 88 07:03:10 GMT
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Reply-To: david@ms.uky.edu (David Herron -- One of the vertebrae)
Organization: U of Kentucky, Mathematical Sciences
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Paul, I think we really do agree (now that we've iterated the argument
a couple of times) ... Possibly there's a slight disagreement over exactly
when it's kosher to rewrite things and when it's not.  But then the system
I oversee *is* a gateway between uucp/bitnet/internet.  I view my internal
network as not being part of the internet and EVERY piece of mail which
comes from the outside has to be converted to proper rfc82{2,1} format.

But then MMDF makes that real nice to because it does such a good
job at rewriting headers and keeping envelope information seperate
from header information.

I am curious why nobody from Sun is here defending their honor.
Yoo Hoo!  Anybody home at Sun?  Anybody wanna defend their sendmail
configuration there?

I tried a test message to you at vixie!paul@sun.com just to see what
would happen.  Here's the result:

Oh well.  I had a higher opinion of the people at sun...  A place
that can make a >$1 billion company off of 4.3bsd (not to mention
become a major player in the computer biz) *ought* to have better
talent than this in their e-mail department.

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] bad system name: vixie
] uux failed ( 68 )
] 550 <vixie!paul>... Host unknown
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] From: David Herron E-Mail Hack <david@ms.uky.edu>
] To: sun!vixie!paul@ms.uky.edu
] Subject:  this is a test
] Message-Id:  <8808071113.aa04242@g.g.ms.uky.edu>
] 
] to see if I can send mail to a supposedly unmailable route
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] <---- ska: David le casse\*'      {rutgers,uunet}!ukma!david, david@UKMA.BITNET
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] <---- Looking forward to a particularly blatant, talkative and period bikini ...
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<---- David Herron -- The E-Mail guy                         <david@ms.uky.edu>
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<---- Looking forward to a particularly blatant, talkative and period bikini ...