Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!porthos.rutgers.edu!pleasant From: pleasant@porthos.rutgers.edu (Mel Pleasant) Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: re/routing (was: why you should say "-d ru) Message-ID: Date: 9 Aug 88 01:51:00 GMT References: <676@bacchus.DEC.COM> <881@vsi1.UUCP> <3674@palo-alto.DEC.COM> <891@vsi1.UUCP> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 40 To: lmb@vsi1.UUCP In article <891@vsi1.UUCP> lmb@vsi1.UUCP (Larry Blair) writes: > The usual case here is that either foo or baz talks to a machine named bar > which is NOT advertised in the maps. It has been a clear Usenet policy that > every site need not advertise every machine they talk to. It has also been > a clear policy that sites should not list every local machine (heaven help us > if they did). In the perfect world, all machines and users and SOFTWARE > would understand and only use domain routing. The world, currently, is not > constructed that way. As Paul said, rutgers is RUDE. This is a real interesting set of statements. To it I say, *BULL*. As far as I am concerned, the map files are not really for people to read but for systems to GENERATE PATHS BY. I, as a person who communicates with people all the time about map entry production, do *not* say in an unqualified way that internal links should not be listed in a map entry. My answers to questions pertaining to what should appear in a map entry is consistent with this point of view. The UUCP Mapping Project would love to see all unqualified (without domain) names _appear_ in the map files. By the same token, I would also like to see the files become smaller. I encourage this by saying, "get yourself a domain and USE SMAIL or some home grown equivalent." Along with this, make sure all of your internal nodes generate fully qualified hostnames for themselves. If you do have an unqualified name that escapes into the `network' at large via mail or news headers, that name *should* (verging on `must') appear in a map entry someplace. I run a script periodically that identifies ghost sites (sites that pathalias can generate a path to but which we do not have a map entry for.) I then run another script which sends mail to these sites at both the uucp and root addresses. The message I send explains what the UUCP Mapping Project is and does, and asks for a map entry as registration. I hope that I've cleared a few things up - speaking with the horse's mouth. -- The UUCP Mapping Project -- Mel Pleasant {backbone}!rutgers!pleasant pleasant@rutgers.edu mpleasant@zodiac.bitnet