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From: LEICHTER@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU ("Jerry Leichter ", LEICHTER-JERRY@CS.YALE.EDU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Regis on GPX
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Date: 30 Jul 88 00:42:00 GMT
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	> Okay, as of VWS 3.2,
	[...]
	> Live Icons are fun... DEF /SYS /EXEC UIS$VT_ENABLE_LIVE_ICON, then
	> delete all of your current 220s, and start some new ones up - then
	> try the SHRINK TO ICON option.... Nice.... You get a mini version of
	> your screen in a 2pt Font... and it's even updated ......

	Well, I'm afraid that those of us who don't have GPX don't get to have
	this feature.  I'm running VMS 4.5 and VWS 3.2 on a VAXstation II (no
	GPX) and just tried what you suggested.  I defined
	UIS$VT_ENABLE_LIVE_ICON to "True" and it didn't work, even after
	getting rid of all of my 220 windows.

	When we have a shrunk icon that gets new data, the words "NEW DATA"
	appear in the icon.  This is the case whether or not the logical is
	defined.  This is NOT in 3.0, but is in 3.2.

My, what a load of confusion from one little type in the original message!

The hardware (GPX vs. MicroVAX II vs. MicroVAX 2000 vs. ...) has nothing at
all to do with this.  These are features of VWS V3.3, which are not in VWS
V3.2.  Install VWS V3.3, and low and behold, you won't have to buy a GPX.
You get a bunch of other handy new features, too - copy and paste from window
to window for example.

Just for completeness:  VWS V3.3 runs on VMS versions V4.6 and V4.7.  VWS V4.0
runs on VMS version V5.0 and later.  They are functionally identical, as far
as I can tell, but because of internal changes neither will run on the other's
OS base.

	Yet another reason to buy a VAXstation 8000  :-)

Try again; VWS doesn't run on an 8000.  On the other hand, X (eventually
DECwindows) does.  Different set of strong points, different set of problems.

Myself, having lived through the bad old days of VWS V1.0, when a crash was
always just a keystroke away and even when it worked it didn't do much, I've
rather come to like VWS.
								-- Jerry