Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!rutgers!ucsd!ucbvax!Venus.YCC.Yale.EDU!LEICHTER From: LEICHTER@Venus.YCC.Yale.EDU ("Jerry Leichter ", LEICHTER-JERRY@CS.YALE.EDU) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Moderated Newsgroup Posting Message-ID: <8808061207.AA07060@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Date: 5 Aug 88 22:01:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 42 Path: venus!leichter From: leichter@venus.ycc.yale.edu Newsgroups: mail.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Ken Olsen on TCP/IP Message-ID: <34@venus.ycc.yale.edu> Date: 5 Aug 88 17:01:31 GMT References: Organisation: VMS NEWS V4.0 Lines: 32 In article , jqj@hogg.cc.uoregon.EDU writes: > Quoted without permission from Digital News, August 1, 1988: > > "Our attitude with TCP/IP is, 'Hey, we'll do it, but don't make a big > system, because we can't fix it if it breaks.'" > > Does this reflect a lack of confidence in the Ultrix group? The actual, full quote - from Ken Olsen - is: "Our attitude with TCP/IP is, 'Hey, we'll do it, but don't make a big system, because we can't fix it if it breaks - nobody can.'" ------------- It's generally considered unfair to quote out of context. To CHANGE the con- text - to deliberately mark something as a full sentence, with no indication that you've left out part of the text, a part which changes the mean of what came before - is bad enough. To then continue on and ask a question based on the falsely-imputed meaning is downright dishonest. Olsen goes on to clarify what he means even further: "TCP/IP is OK if you've got a little informal club, and it doesn't make any difference if it takes a while to fix it." Now, you can disagree with this statement - probably most of the readers of this list WILL disagree, though perhaps not all. But there's a world of difference between disagreeing on the merits, and the intellectual dishonesty of picking words OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF A SENTENCE and ascribing a new meaning to them that wasn't there to start with. -- Jerry