Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!agate!crm@cs.duke.edu From: crm@cs.duke.edu (Charlie Martin) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Re: Language in a Requirements Specification Message-ID: <12901@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 2 Aug 88 13:42:11 GMT Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 34 Approved: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu .... Feminists have used she as the generic, to see if men would feel included, and many did not. Since there is no linguistic tradition of using she as a generic, there had been no training in doing so, and I'm not surprised that men didn't. I see a fair number of alternating he and she documents nowadays, and find I'm no longer noticing -- I feel "included" by the she as well, now. (There's an old joke about being half woman on my mother's side that I'll forbear....) It would be a better experiment to arrange to have a collection of women read manuals with the generic masculine pronoun and see if they felt included. By preference, this should be with a population of women that hadn't already been corrupted by the Ms vs Miss and generic pronoun debate; we just get in our Wayback machine with a stack of surveys... where's that damned dog? Anyway, here's was Mary-Claire van Leunen says about the generic pronoun: My expository style relies heavily on the exemplary singular, and the construction "everybody ... his" therefore comes up frequently. This "his" is generic, not gendered. "His or her" becomes clumsy with repetition and suggests that "his" alone elsewhere is masculine, which it isn't. "Her" alone draws attention to itself and distracts from the topic at hand. "Their" solves the problem neatly but substitutes another. "Ter" is bolder than I am ready for. "One's" defeats the purpose of the construction, which is meant to be vivid and particular. "Its" is too harsh a joke. Rather than play hob with the language, we feminists might adopt the position of pitying men for being forced to share their pronouns around. -- A Handbook for Scholars, pp 4--5.