Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!agate!clambert%hector@Sun.COM From: clambert%hector@Sun.COM (Caroline Lambert [summer intern]) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Re: Countering discrimination your children will face Message-ID: <12903@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 2 Aug 88 19:53:07 GMT References: <12872@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 27 Approved: skyler@violet.berkeley.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu There were so many comments on this I don't know who to quote. Anyhow, I think we're losing the point of the original argument, that girls should be encouraged (not forced, not persuaded, but simply encouraged) to take an interest in technical stuff in order to counter the discrimination that creeps up in sneaky, ill-defined ways in our society. If the discrimination weren't there, then why are there so few women in technical fields? What else can be done to change this trend, besides parental support and encouragement? I think part of the problem with this discussion is that we've been discussing career choices of girls who have already been subjected to this subtle discrimination - this discrimination has to be 'countered' earlier on in life. Probably a child's teachers aren't going to be of any help, so it must be left to the parents, if they feel so inclined. And obviously, this encouragement can be carried too far. As for science being better than some other field - well, I have to admit I'm biased, since I love what I'm doing. Yes, it would be better to be a happy linguist than an unhappy scientist, but we have to try to understand why a woman would be unhappy as a scientist. I would expect that the women who think they would not like being in technical fields, think so because of some early unhappy experience with math, science or whatever, brought about because of some form of discrimination. Caroline Lambert caroline@polya.stanford.edu clambert@sun.com