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From: delaney%wnre.aecl.CDN@ean.ubc.ca
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Subject: perfect telcom prog/Quit to DOS
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Date: 8 Aug 88 01:51:00 GMT
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David the one thing to remember about kermit is it's origin.  Kermit stems
from DOS 3.3 and a heritage that allows it to be run under either Dos 3.3 or
PRODOS and on all APPLES II to IIgs.  While I agree that wee should all be 
trying to run under PRODOS there are still a lot of apple II and II+ with out
the 64K necessayr to run Prodos.  It's nice to see that support is still there
for these people.  As well TED MEDIN has written this as FREEWARE that has 
evolved over a number of years and a rewrite would require considerable effort. 
 Do I hear a someone offering to do it and provide continued support out of the 
goodness of his hart as TED has.

On the point of going back to a Launcher such as Davex.  I find it a real 
problem with kermit.  Davex uses an external Catalog command which Kermit does
not know and causes Kermit to dump me into the monitor.  Secondly if your 
down loading the files to /RAM5 like I often do it is nice to find your self
in the correct place to EXEC the files with out finding them end up in your roo
t
disk as they do with a BASIC.SYSTEM call from davex or having to reset the 
the prefix after a basic call in ECP8.

Both DAVEX and ECP8 or 16 are great as they give you the extensions that are
missing from PRODOS but each has it's limitations and on my IIgs at least TED
MEDIN has built in a VT100 emulator thats works with anything on the VAXs I
work through from our MICRO VAXES right through to or 6230 and better yet than
any comercail program I've seen yet it configures the GS keypad to match a 
VT100
 
Grant