Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!uwvax!oddjob!ncar!mailrus!uwmcsd1!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!neighbor From: neighbor@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Alan Ding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: The perfect telecom program Summary: New Moustalk update Message-ID: <6412@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Date: 9 Aug 88 00:07:53 GMT References: Sender: daemon@uwmcsd1.UUCP Reply-To: neighbor@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Alan Ding) Organization: University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Lines: 116 In article tmetro@lynx.northeastern.EDU writes: > > David Whitney writes: >> Just posted the latest Z-Link. Keep those suggestions coming! >After seeing this and knowing that there are at least three telecom program >developers out there reading Info-Apple I thought I would add my thoughts on >the subject. > >The software I currently use, and like, is AE Pro. Unfortunately it has >been quite a while since it was updated and it is lacking in features >in comparison to the newer packages. I just recieved my new update of Mousetalk. It is now version 1.5. It's got a bunch of new features. >> -Really good VT100 emulation >> -Ascii, xmodem, ymodem, zmodem file transfer >In particular I'd like to see AE Pro compatable Xmodem, Ymodem batch, Kermit >Binary II (maybe even BLU style with squeezing) and possibly Morgan Davis' >Xmodem-4K. Mousetalk 1.5 will now does Xmodem, CRC mode, 1k Xmodem , 4k Xmodem, and Binary II. It has an option to turn on and off the Ascii Express mode, making it compatible with standard Xmodem or AE xmodem. (AE xmodem sends the extra block for the file type data.) You can also specify the file type AE saves the data to. It's got 9 standard file types on screen with 30 that it knows (by text.) Or you can specify the type by number. It's got a very good (supposedly) vt100 emulator. I am using it right now in fact. I'm using VI on UNIX with no problems. I have heard that PROTERM messes up on wrapped lines. This one works fine with wrapped lines. The full screen text editor has been expanded out to 36000 characters from 33792. The clip board is a bit larger too. Full Pathnames can be entered by the keyboard now instead of using the Prefix box. Mousetalk is also capable of using extended memory cards and can be run from a Ram disk. Note that if you only have 128k, it will destroy the 64k ram drive. >> -Easy-to-enter commands Mousetalk is very easy to enter commands. (If you have a mouse.) But there are all the keyboard open-apple equivelants for most of them. Some new keys are used in the new 1.5 version. >> -macros Mousetalk's Macros are full features. But no Auto learn feature exists. >> -Ability to execute ProDOS commands >> * Easy access to ProDOS commands (copy files, rename, format disk, delete >> files, create subdir, easy directory traversal, etc.) With Mousetalk you can view a file, delete, rename, catalog, and volumes on line. Someone said it has no online command. These commands were always present. >Easy directory traversal would be a definite plus. AE is probably the worst >program for dealing with ProDOS directories. Under certain conditions with AE >there is no way to find out the volume name of a floppy disk without exiting >the program. It lacks any sort of an 'online' command. I have never had any problems with moving around in directories with Mousetalk. Some problems are if you are in a subdirectory and you remove the disk and try to close that subdirectory, it will look around for the disk and give you an error cause it couldn't find it. But all you do is leave the disk in until you are one away from the root. Then you remove the disk and insert a new disk. Then when it goes to check the drives it will find your new disk. >> * Views and prints TXT and APW files You can view TXT but not APW >> you can't access /RAM (it uses 44K for a copy/edit buffer and the rest for >> scrollback, up to your full capacity, whether you like it or not :-(). Mousetalk has always had a scrollback buffer. It is 8k. Note this buffer is separate from the 36k of the editor so you can have a file in the editor without it being interupted from the scroll back. >To recap the major features that I'd like to see: > o Powerful macros (at least as good as AE's) > o Scrollback > o Full screen editor > o No "smart" modem control > o Protocols: Xmodem(AE), Ymodem, Kermit, Binary II formatting. > o VT100 emulation I think Mousetalk hits on all of these features. No Kermit transfer though. And now with vt100 emulation. I think this greatly improves the performance. One neat thing: On the disk they include BLU by Floyd Zink, a type changer program written in basic. I think this is the same one posted to APPLE2L a long time ago. And some type of file editor runable from ProDOS16. If you have an older version of Mousetalk, you can upgrade for $25 bucks. > ___________ >./ Tom Metro \_____________________________________________________________. >| _ _ | >| INET: tmetro@pro-angmar.uucp --/\/\_| |_| '- DigiTell, Inc. | >| ARPA: crash!pnet01!pro-angmar!tmetro@nosc.mil Newton, MA | >| UUCP: [ihnp4 sdcsvax nosc]!crash!pnet01!pro%angmar!tmetro | >|_Alternate: tmetro@lynx.northeastern.edu__________________________________| > "I think I was kidding" - Reagan neighbor@csd4.milw.wisc.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ | arpanet: neighbor@csd4.milw.wisc.edu | | UUCP: ihnp4!uwmcsd1!csd4!neighbor | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~