Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!linus!dartvax!eleazar.dartmouth.edu!stevel From: stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Steve Ligett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: cycle time vs. access time (was: RAM speed per clock rate) Message-ID: <9703@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 8 Aug 88 14:57:54 GMT References: <22faf142@ralf> Sender: news@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU Reply-To: stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Steve Ligett) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 38 In article <22faf142@ralf> Ralf.Brown@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU writes: N.B. The whole original article deleted here, and most of the reply from Ralf.Brown. > Dynamic RAMs require a memory > cycle time of twice the access time (due to setup and recovery times). I've seen this asserted several times, and maybe it's a convienent approximation. But it's not exactly correct. The cycle times are not so simply related to the access times. There is no simple equation that applies to all memory chips, from any maker, in any density, in any technology. You have to read the memory data sheets to get the two numbers, and then you'll have to read the data sheets from your microprocessor maker, and account for the time taken by the "glue" logic on the board to come up with required memory speed. Sometimes the access time will be the limiting factor, and sometimes the cycle time will be. With that as disclaimer, here is a table of access and cycle times for generic (dynamic ram) chips -- access cycle time time 200 ns 330 ns 150 ns 260 ns 120 ns 220 ns 100 ns 190 ns 85 ns 165 ns Some of the old chips had longer cycle times for these access times, and I've seen data sheets for some Hitachi products that have faster cycle times for these access times. Also, remember that these are memory chip times, not memory system times. Steve Ligett steve.ligett@dartmouth.edu or (decvax harvard ihnp4 linus)!dartvax!steve.ligett