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From: drc@claris.UUCP (Dennis Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: LS Pascal 2.0 Update price
Keywords: $50 ???
Message-ID: <4543@claris.UUCP>
Date: 7 Aug 88 14:17:41 GMT
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Reply-To: drc@claris.UUCP (Dennis Cohen)
Organization: Claris Corporation, Mountain View CA
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A number of points need to be discussed here.

1.  You claim that a $50 upgrade is outrageous for a product that MacConnection
    sells for $65.  Upgrade prices are based against list (which for LSP is
    $125) and THINK does get their upgrades out in reasonable time (they ship
    the first batch of them at the same time that the first batch goes to
    distributors).

2.  I agree with you about SemperSoft Modula-2.  It is also my favorite.  I
    ported TransSkel, TransDisplay, and TransEdit to both it and TML Modula-2.
    I _gave_ this stuff to both Mike Amling at Semper and Tom Leonard at TML
    with a letter from Paul Dubois that they were PD and a letter from me that
    they were free for distribution.  Tom chose not to include them, Mike did.

3.  I'm a little biased at the moment concerning Pascal compilers.  Ken Butler
    and I wrote PasMat and PasRef utilities.  TML is shipping our MPW tool
    implementations with TML II under non-exclusive license.  I sent PasMat to
    Think as a possible solution to the (expletive-deleted) editor of theirs
    in the hopes that its flexibility could be integrated so that if your
    source is going to be reformatted, at least it will be to your preferred
    style.  They never got back to me.  The tools are currently being
    evaluated by Borland.  I use MPW most of the time because I mix languages.
    TML Pascal II does compile MacApp NOW (it ships this week at MacWorld
    Expo in Boston) because Tom ran his compiler against the MPW validation
    suite.  For the price-point, it is an excellent purchase (if it would only
    do true packing -- only MPW does at the moment).  I understand that the
    "MacApp soon" part for LSP is due to source level changes that need to be
    made to MacApp for the different environment (compiler directives and
    segmentation?).  Borland will probably be upgrading their product soon --
    they're a major force and I doubt that Phillipe will allow them to be
    left very far behind.


Being opinionated today (and rambling),
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
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Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!