Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!phri!marob!samperi From: samperi@marob.MASA.COM (Dominick Samperi) Newsgroups: comp.unix.microport Subject: Re: Support matters Summary: "real" beta feedback FROM Microport Keywords: Support is the key (what?!!!) Message-ID: <352@marob.MASA.COM> Date: 7 Aug 88 05:16:31 GMT References: <294@gandalf.littlei.UUCP> <236@belltec.UUCP> <6475@bcsaic.UUCP> <243@belltec.UUCP> <192@focsys.UUCP> <10583@lll-winken.llnl.gov> <382@uport.UUCP> <739@mccc.UUCP> <393@uport.UUCP> <221@njs.UUCP> <402@uport.UUCP> Reply-To: samperi@marob.UUCP (Dominick Samperi) Organization: EECC, NYC Lines: 37 In article <402@uport.UUCP> plocher@uport.UUCP (John Plocher) writes: >I'm new here at Microport; meetings are one of the only ways I have of >"learning the ropes". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My past experience with Microport leads me to believe that you will be able to serve your costumers better if you DO NOT "learn the ropes;" just use your natural sense of fairness... > If *some* of you want to help with a "real" beta, send me mail. ^^^^ Beta testing is hard work, time consuming and tedious, and the least you should do, short of paying your beta testers, is to provide "real" beta test feedback. This means, for example, not telling your beta tester that the "fix" for a compiler bug that he spent many days isolating is to buy another vendors compiler. Your beta testers also deserve informed feedback from someone at Microport who knows what he/she is talking about (I can give many examples where this was not the case). And when you can't fix a problem, you shouldn't promise your beta testers that you will send the relevant source code, so he/she can work on it (for free), and then not follow through. Software testing and bug fixing is undoubtedly your major technical activity (as it is for all large software systems), so your beta testers are essentially doing a large portion of your work for you, for free, and I think you owe them more respect than you have given them in the past. > "Beta" does NOT mean "production" or "placate an upset customer" > or "get a free upgrade"; now that I'm here, Beta means BETA, and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (what?) Yes, and beta testing should be a VOLUNTARY activity. -- Dominick Samperi, NYC samperi@acf8.NYU.EDU samperi@marob.MASA.COM cmcl2!phri!marob uunet!hombre!samperi (^ ell)