Xref: utzoo comp.unix.wizards:10307 comp.unix.questions:8621 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!rutgers!bellcore!clyde!watmath!cantuar!paul From: paul@cantuar.UUCP (P. Ashton) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,comp.unix.questions Subject: vi and emacs questions : summary of replies Message-ID: <626@cantuar.UUCP> Date: 6 Aug 88 23:22:27 GMT Organization: Comp Sci, Canterbury Univ., Christchurch, New Zealand Lines: 41 Some weeks ago I posted a question about vi and emacs. I asked about whether it was practical to run GNUemacs in a student environment on a VAX 11/750 running 4.3BSD, and SUN 3/50s and 3/60s given that we'd heard GNUemacs was quite resource hungry, and whether there was a version of vi for VMS. I got several replies (too many to put into one posting) thanks to all those that responded. GNUemacs resource requirements - most replies said that GNUemacs uses a lot of CPU and memory, and that they don't use it on machines as small as a VAX 11/750 for students. Many smaller emacs were suggested as alternatives, including microemacs (comp.sources.unix archives), JOVE (4.3 bsd user contributed software tape), and MicroGNU (now called mg - not sure how to get hold of it). One person reported running up to 10 emacs users on a VAX 11/780 running 4.3BSD, but didn't specify which version of emacs he was running. Vi on VMS - the only implementation reported was as part of the UNIX environment for VMS from Interactive Systems and Wollongong (the person didn't know how to contact the vendor however). This information was sent to me by davidsen@steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) so anyone interested in pursuing this may be able to get some more info from him. As for which editor to use next year - we have decided on some form of emacs - probably microemacs. We believe (as did all of the people who expressed an opinion in their mail messages) that emacs is the better editor, and is more widely available over different operating systems than vi. One person replied that Unix programmers have to know vi, and that emacs should only be taught to people who already know vi. However we are a CS dept which offers degrees in Computer Science, not an institution for turning out Unix programmers, so this argument wasn't really applicable. -- Internet(ish): paul@cantuar.{uucp,nz} JANET/SPEARNET: p.ashton@nz.ac.canty UUCP: ...!{watmath,munnari,mcvax,...!uunet!vuwcomp}!cantuar!paul NZ Telecom: Office: +64 3 667 001 x6350 NZ Post: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand