Xref: utzoo sci.bio:1438 sci.misc:2276 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!watdragon!violet!rpjday From: rpjday@violet.waterloo.edu (Rob Day) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.misc Subject: Re: Strange results in Nature article (fallout...) Keywords: skepticism debunking Message-ID: <8107@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: 3 Aug 88 12:43:59 GMT References: <1911@aecom.YU.EDU> <6445@megaron.arizona.edu> <492@metapsy.UUCP> <1930@aecom.YU.EDU> <498@metapsy.UUCP> Sender: daemon@watdragon.waterloo.edu Reply-To: rpjday@violet.waterloo.edu (Rob Day) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 29 In article <498@metapsy.UUCP> sarge@metapsy.UUCP (Sarge Gerbode) writes: >In article <1930@aecom.YU.EDU> werner@aecom.YU.EDU (Craig Werner) writes: >> Actually, Randi's only assumption was that "all known laws of physics >>are valid." > >That's quite an assumption, when one is looking at something that may >invalidate existing laws of physics. A prejudice, I would say. If all >physicists had such an assumption, there would be no discoveries of new >laws of physics, no progress in the field of physics. Oh, please, your statement has the flavor of a rather well-known proponent of TM who graced the screens of sci.misc for some time. His response to statements that self-levitation violated every known physical law and then some was that, well, maybe it's time to rewrite Newton's laws. Sure, for no other reason than to accommodate someone's wishful thinking. If we were to take into consideration that every new and bizarre discovery could be explained by invalidating existing laws of physics, we'd certainly have an interesting system of science. I think you'll have to do better than accusations of prejudice directed at someone who simply wants to work within the framework of existing physical laws. Unless you have some good reasons to drop this assumption. And so far, all I've seen are rather nasty, ill-informed and rather ignorant statements directed at poor Mr. Randi. Prejudice, indeed. If this is a sample of metapsychology, I'm not sure I'm terribly impressed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert P. J. Day // rpjday@violet.waterloo.{edu|cdn} Dept. of Comp. Sci. // rpjday@violet.uwaterloo.ca University of Waterloo // uunet!watmath!violet!rpjday _______________________________________________________________________