Xref: utzoo sci.bio:1446 sci.misc:2292 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!eagle!icdoc!qmc-cs!alex From: alex@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Alex Kashko) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.misc Subject: Re: Strange results in Nature article (fallout...) Keywords: skepticism debunking pseudoscience Message-ID: <558@sequent.cs.qmc.ac.uk> Date: 3 Aug 88 09:26:21 GMT References: <1911@aecom.YU.EDU> <6445@megaron.arizona.edu> <492@metapsy.UUCP> <19778@cornell.UUCP> <1931@aecom.YU.EDU> Reply-To: alex@cs.qmc.ac.uk (Alex Kashko) Organization: Computer Science Dept, Queen Mary College, University of London, UK. Lines: 13 Considering that, as shown by Broadbent and Wade, in their book, "Betrayers of the truth", fraud is endemic in mainstream science, we should all ask ourselves whether our own work would stand up to an investigation by Randi. Computer Science is harder to fake, but not , I suspect impossible (I haven't even thaught how I could fake a result involving a working program unless I had control of the input, which is not always possible with, say, a compiler). Maybe every research team should include someone to check for fraud by the research team, or the funding bodies should employ profesional magicians to investigate ALL results. More generally maybe the speed with which most mainstream researchers cry fraud represents a guilty conscience ( What Freudians call projection ). Reverting to Beneviste's article, not only has the result been replicated elsewhere (Nature specifically asked for that) but Beneviste quotes older work showing similar results. I suggest that, despite the investigator's report, Beneviste's work still presents a case to answer.