Xref: utzoo sci.bio:1470 sci.misc:2338 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!rutgers!bellcore!faline!thumper!ulysses!andante!alice!dmr From: dmr@alice.UUCP Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.misc Subject: Re: Strange results in Nature article Message-ID: <8092@alice.UUCP> Date: 7 Aug 88 07:28:24 GMT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ Lines: 101 This affair is unfortunate. Although I thought well of Nature to publish the paper, and considered the cautionary comments and editorial printed with it entirely appropriate, their investigation and the report they printed of it (Nature 334, 28 July) were indeed badly handled. The report (by Maddox, Randi, and Stewart) was much too hastily prepared and is nearly incomprehensible because of editorial errors in its preparation. It is not the sort of thing that in the ordinary course of events would be accepted by Nature. Much of it is narrative in flavor: "Benveniste ... offered to predict where the peaks and troughs would fall in the data.... But his predictions proved to be entirely wrong." Later, "Opening sealed envelopes is Randi's expertise." At the same time, it attempts to convey actual results through graphs, but they appear to have botched the presentation; if someone can explain to me what Figs 3, 4, 5 actually represent, I would be grateful. To give examples of the problems: Fig 3 has two graphs of "degranulation" vs. "dilution". The figure's caption begins "Records for the first two blind experiments (5-7 inclusive)...." What does this mean? The top graph is labelled "Blind expt X" and has two data sets on it, with a legend saying that the x marks are "EX" and black circles "EY". The bottom graph has no such legends, and its two data sets are marked with black circles and open squares. Although the dispersion of the top and bottom graphs are similar, the ordinate scales differ, so that one notices that the bottom graph looks bouncier than the top one, though in fact they are about the same. The text does not explain what the Expt X, Y, EX, EY mean, nor the "two experiments" vs "5-7 inclusive." In spite of the labels, the abscissas must really be log dilution, not just dilution. The ordinate values in Fig. 3 have had something subtracted from them (their values are sometimes negative) and are clearly not "degranulation;" the first reference to Fig 3 in the text talks about subtracting the mean. I guess that Fig 3 probably represents normalized counts (not degranulation), but assignment of the labels and referring the graph points to actual experiments is pure guesswork. The second reference to Fig. 3 in the text appears to be talking about a combination of Figs. 4 and 5, graphs showing the same kind of data as each other (normalized deviations of basophil counts from their mean) but which are drawn in somewhat different styles, obstructing comparison. Fig 6 probably has a wrongly labelled ordinate (fractional degranulation rather than percent as the label says), and its caption says "Two duplicate Italian runs showing high degranulation, but discordantly" while the text says "Figure 6 is typical of the data from Milan. While there are no duplicate data measurements, and therefore no direct evidence of sampling error, there is also some evidence of degranulation at high dilution." What are the two meanings of "duplicate" here? And there is no evidence for degranulation at high dilution, because there is no way to know what the dilution is--the abcissa in this graph is merely "tube number." Aside from procedural matters recounted anecdotally, the two killer criticisms are 1) Benveniste et al. got smaller sampling errors from counting the basophils than could be expected, suggesting the possibility of something fishy in their counting; 2) The whole effect disappeared when blind counting (counter didn't know what was in the tube) was used. But the report so screws up the presentation that you must trust the authors of the report that these observations are true; their graphs are meaningless. The report ends with 5 specific criticisms, of which the first, "The care with which the experiments have been carried out does not match the extraordinary character of the claims made in their interpretation," summarizes the rest, which go into a bit more detail. Unfortunately, the care with which the investigation and the report were prepared do not match the expectations engendered by the extraordinary publicity the affair has received. The criticisms that the report makes may well be trenchant, but its presentation is so bady flawed that an unbiased reader would find it hard to take seriously except in faith that Maddox, Randi, and Stewart can be trusted. My guess (as a biased reader) is that a proper presentation of their findings would support their conclusions. Immediately following the report is a reply by Benveniste. Just as unfortunately, he raves when he should be measured and modest. Much of what he says sounds like Usenet, in fact: "Salem witchhunts or McCarthy-like prosecutions will kill science. Science flourishes only in freedom. We must not let, at any price, fear, blackmail, anonymous accusation, libel and deceit nest in our labs." He also recounts activities that were, at least, inappropriate-- "Stewart imposed a deadly silence in the counting room, yet loud laughter was heard where he was filling chambers. There, during this critical process, was Randi playing tricks, distracting the technician in charge of its supervision!" It seems to me that Nature misread the issue and overreacted. The observations that the original paper makes are so far from what can be explained, and should be so easily checkable, that it should have been sufficient to let others try to reproduce the results. At any rate, if an investigatory team was to be sent, it should have been done with less haste and greater care. Dennis Ritchie