Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!uw-june!uw-entropy!dataio!pilchuck!ssc!mcgp1!fst From: fst@mcgp1.UUCP (Skip Tavakkolian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: WANTED: 3b1 ram expansion Summary: max(7300) == 2 MB , max(3b1) == 4 MB (I think) Message-ID: <1525@mcgp1.UUCP> Date: 20 Aug 88 02:01:14 GMT References: <8118@alice.UUCP> Organization: Computer Tools Int'l Inc. Lines: 40 In article <8118@alice.UUCP>, wilber@alice.UUCP writes: >, aaron@proxftl.UUCP writes: ><> I have a 3b1 (2mb ram, 67mb HD), and I really need another 2 megs or so. ><> Does anyone know where I can get this or have some for sale? ><-------- >< Christopher J. Calabrese >< AT&T Bell Laboratories >< ulysses!cjc > You can have up to 4Mb of real memory on a 3b1. In practice the limit is > usually 3.5 Mb, since most people would rather get a combo board with 1.5 Mb > and two serial ports than a RAM board with 2 Mb and no serial ports. Because > of a limitation of the MMU, the maximum user memory *per process* is 2.5 Mb. > At least that is how I understand the situation. > Bob Wilber There is an old BYTE review you may want to look for (this was for the original 7300 several years back). Here is what I recollect. The MMU in 3b1/7300 has 24 address lines (I am not sure if it is 68451s). The difference in 7300 and the 3b1 (mother board designs) is in the number of address lines which are ignored (out of the possible 2^24 = 16777216). That, I believe, is the only difference in 7300 and 3b1. So that 7300 MMU can address no more than 2 MB and the 3b1 no more that 4 MB. This however should not make any difference in the per *user* process address space in a virtual memory system (demand page allows sizes smaller than a whole process to be swapped in and out of memory). Maximum per user process address limit is what the 68010 can address. Hope this is all true :-) Sincerely -- Fariborz ``Skip'' Tavakkolian UUCP ...!uw-beaver!tikal!mcgp1!fst UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T