Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!BUENGC.BU.EDU!bph From: bph@BUENGC.BU.EDU (Blair P. Houghton) Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: Re: Two Points (ref AI Digests passim). Message-ID: <19880905045724.4.NICK@HOWARD-JOHNSONS.LCS.MIT.EDU> Date: 5 Sep 88 04:57:00 GMT Sender: daemon@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 34 Approved: ailist@ai.ai.mit.edu To: comp-ai-digest@gatech.edu Path: purdue!bu-cs!buengc!bph From: Blair P. Houghton Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: Re: Two Points (ref AI Digests passim). Date: Sun, 28 Aug 88 15:33 EDT References: <19880827040813.5.NICK@HOWARD-JOHNSONS.LCS.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: Blair P. Houghton Followup-To: comp.ai.digest Organization: Boston Univ. Col. of Eng. Lines: 21 In a previous article, "Gordon Joly, Statistics, UCL" writes: >[b] With regard to what Einstein said, Heisenberg's uncertainty princinple > is also pertinent to "AI". The principle leads to the notion that the > observer influences that which is observed. So how does this affect the > observer who preforms a self analysis? C'mon; Heisenberg said nothing of the kind. He was talking about tiny little particles with miniscule kinetic energies. (...or maybe not |^D ) "Know thyself" is more like Shakespeare than Heisenberg, and likely as old as Egypt. Physical self-analysis on the scale for Heisenberg is moot. Electrons "know" where they are and where they are going. They don't have, nor do they need, self-analysis. I do wish people would keep *recursion* and *perturbation* straight and different from the Uncertainty Principle. It's a very poor metaphor (kindof like what Freud did to Oedipus' reputation...) --Blair