Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!munnari!ditmela!george From: george@ditmela.oz (George michaelson) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: memory speed & futurology Message-ID: <2179@ditmela.oz> Date: 24 Aug 88 02:02:09 GMT Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology, Australia Lines: 71 The August edition of 'electronics' is about memory technology current & futures. it had this table suggesting price/performance trends in the next 10 years. I suspect we see another sub-generation of workstations coming online before this, but a 5 year design timescale might mean the sun-6 series and its peers could take advantage of these changes. (from Electronics, Aug '88 page 70, reproduced without permission) HOW SYSTEM STORAGE WILL CHANGE ============================== Cache Main Mem Magnetic Disk Optical Disk Cost/Mb: 1987 $500 $250 $6.30 $3.50 - $5.50 1995 $ 60 $ 30 $1.75 under 50c Av access time: 1987 45-55ns 120-150ns 15-20ms 35-100ms 1995 15-20ns under 25ns 10ms 20-25ms My questions: (1) how plausible are their figures? I have no other info to hand. (2) main memory gets 6 times faster and 8 times cheaper. cache gets 2-3 times faster and 8 times cheaper. Thus their speeds almost converge. Does that make cache sufficiently unattactive to stop being used? -price/speed ratio looks ugly (twice the cost for saving 5-10ns) -overall access speed to memory is 2 X current speed to cache so for existing processor architectures you can possibly do without it unless there are `logical' reasons for using cache other than buffering for slower memory. (3) do the new speeds still look good alongside predicted clock speeds for CPU or do we have another development lag here? there is another table in the mag showing possible access times for existing 32bit cpus & available speeds from different memory technology but it's hard to reproduce. It implies memory access delay is one of many bottlenecks, I think these speedups might cure it but only for existing clockspeeds. (4) at $30/Mb do we start to get ramdisk coming back into fashion? $3k for a 100meg `drive' looks pretty neat, assuming there are architectural reasons for not making it simply look like resident memory. (5) do we start to get 32/64Mb by default in our workstations? does the opsys change its memory usage when that much memory is around? (6) with optical disk getting down to current access times for `real' disk do they become standard or are the disadvantages still too great? does unix sprout file version numbers? -I'm assuming WORM speeds are similar to pre-recorded speeds here... (7) dual ported memory & video rams: do they benifit too? (8) put your own question here! -george -- George Michaelson, CSIRO Division of Information Technology ACSnet: G.Michaelson@ditmela.oz Phone: +61 3 347 8644 Postal: CSIRO, 55 Barry St, Carlton, Vic 3053 Oz Fax: +61 3 347 8987