Xref: utzoo comp.unix.microport:1436 comp.sys.att:4117 comp.databases:1326 Checksum: 22661 Path: utzoo!utgpu!woods From: woods@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Greg Woods) Date: Tue, 30-Aug-88 23:24:49 EDT Message-ID: <1988Aug30.232449.15486@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> Organization: G. A. W. Consulting Newsgroups: comp.unix.microport,comp.sys.att,comp.databases Subject: Re: (386) Unix (In)compatibilities Summary Summary: something wrong in Unix-land? References: <1988Aug26.220549.14910@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> <1061@apt.UUCP> Reply-To: woods@gpu.utcs.Toronto.EDU (Greg Woods) Distribution: comp Tricky things, those device drivers! One note that especially caught my eye today was something about Microport mucking with the internal interfaces of device drivers and the kernel. Microport's drivers won't link with the ISC kernel and vice-versa, so it was implied. Sounds like someone is trying to throw their weight around. This is just going to discourage people from supporting both systems. Why I sure wouldn't want to maintain drivers for two VERY similar but definitely different systems! I would say that in the case of the incommunicado Telebit that there is a bug lurking in the driver. Either that, or there was something slightly askew between the two tests. There are so many ways to configure those modems, and different cable will make a big difference, and different serial interface hardware will likely imply different drivers too. If one of the systems mentioned happens to be ISC's 386/ix, I'd be wary of what appears to me to be a mis-understanding on their part about the RS-232 interface. We have an internal Hayes 2400 baud modem. It seems that the COM1/COM2 drivers in 386/ix won't allow uugetty to function correctly. Something tells me that if I could put a non-standard modem cable (ie: one without all 25 pins wired straight through) between the modem and the port, I could get it to work. Of course this is slightly impossible with an internal modem.... I'm not sure how they can get things so messed up when the termio man page is so easy to read :-) Now if only someone would copy Sun's example, we could eradicate uugetty too... who needs it arguing with verbose modems anyway! -- Greg Woods. UUCP: utgpu!woods, utgpu!{ontmoh, ontmoh!ixpierre}!woods VOICE: (416) 242-7572 [h] LOCATION: Toronto, Ontario, Canada