Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!ucdavis!deneb.ucdavis.edu!cck From: cck@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Earl H. Kinmonth) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: need help with xenix Kermit to PC procomm Message-ID: <2877@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Date: 23 Aug 88 06:02:59 GMT References: <20302@neabbs.UUCP> <11744@oberon.USC.EDU> <6729@bigtex.uucp> Sender: uucp@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu Reply-To: cck@deneb.ucdavis.edu.UUCP (Earl H. Kinmonth) Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 22 >Kermit has more overhead no matter how you measure it. The packets >have high overhead, and the implementations have high resource >requirements on the host processor. Windowing Kermit tends to have >very high overhead. This is my experience. I do many file transfers from a VAX 11/750. Tests at 9600 baud (nominal) with the same file and same loading conditions show kermit resulting a approximately four times the billed time (cpu time + sys time) of xmodem. Effective transfer rates (measured at the receiving end) are typically about 260 chars/sec with kermit. Ascii file transfers run at 560 chars/sec under the same conditions. I've found kermit so slow and so expensive (plus being so cranky) over my leased line that I can get better and less expensive results by running ascii transfers (base 85 encoded if the source is weird or binary) twice and comparing each transmission or simply compressing the file(s) to be transfferred with zoo or compress and relying on the decompression process to catch munged files which are then retransmitted. By the way, I'm not a programmer, and perhaps should not comment, but the code of ckermit impresses me as one holy rat's nest.